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obama will be announcing a deal he will be speaking with middle class americans behind him, and he will send the message that if they do not act by john 1st, the average american will see their taxes go up by about $2,000, and it could ultimately wind up hurting the recovery, could wind up ultimately sending the economy back into recession. those are some of the themes i expect him to touch on. there are a lot of discussions going on behind the scenes with the president. the vice president, of course, in close contact with mitch mcconnell. he was brought into these negotiations yesterday. mitch mcconnell says he needs a dance partner. mcconnell said that in negotiations when they had all but stalled. vice president biden brought into the negotiations engaged, and he really did, it seem, at this point help to move the negotiations forward. the vice president has more than 30 years searching in the senate. 23 of those along side senator mcconnell. he certainly are on all sides are staying he has been a big help here, chris. >> as anyone who has ever sat in the senate gallery and watc
morning washington," on your side. >> 5:30. trade ahead, president obama wraps up efforts to reach a deal with lawmakers in order to avoid the fiscal cliff. we will have details on this afternoon's key meeting. good morning, washington. it's friday, december 28. i am scott thuman. cynne simpson is off today. snow is on the way. let's cap to meteorologist jacqui jeras to find out if it is a fun amount. >> it is a fun amount. it's not today. it's overnight into tomorrow. today's a gray day for travel. 37 degrees right now. there is a breeze out of the north and northwest at 3 miles an hour. there is a wind chill factor this morning. it feels like 28 at dulles, 27 in gaithersburg, 24 in winchester, 28 in culpeper, 24 in fredericksburg. you will need to bundle up. you have plenty of time to prepare for this storm. it will be enough for a winter weather advisory in the potomac highlands and parts of west virginia where 4-6 inches could be possible at the highest elevations and maybe an inch or so adjust to the west of the d.c. area. partly sunny skies today. first, traffic with steve. >> we wi
to stop this, this is obama's deal, now he owns it. >> but they need to do better with communicating that exact message, really, if you look at what's going on here, obama has been persistent and bullheaded saying, it's my way or no way and i think he can wants to go over the cliff to demonize and at the same time bullying the middle class. >> and in the short-term run, that it is inevitable that the democrats will say you guys, you republicans, you put us offer the cliff because you were defending your rich millionaire friends, it's inevitable they will say that and that's a winning political line in the short-run. and over that, however, and you ask where is the leadership from this president, where is it? >> and here, stuart. >> doesn't he agree with you. >> americans with funny accent. let me ask you this question, explain to me and to the american people out there right now why you need to protect millionaires tax cuts in two sentences? >> okay, if you tax people over $250,000. >> wait a second, okay. >> tax them over a million, you might bring in on the best of years, you might
. president obama said a deal is in sight to stop america going over the so-called fiscal cliff. congress officials have said the house of representatives will not vote before midnight despite tense negotiations to get an agreement signed before midnight washington time. that will trigger a series of automatic spending cuts and tax hikes and could send the country back into recession. >> of america is staring into the economic unknown. there will be some real damage. there are some people deserving far better and we will be scrambling to find budget reductions in we can understand. >> we are upon the fiscal cliff. will we need to focus on is how we find that common ground. ira by -- i believe republicans and democrats alike want to put us on the course to fiscal discipline. >> we are running at a time. americans are threatened with a tax hike in just few hours. i hope we can keep in mind that our single most important goal is to protect middle-class families. >> democrats and republicans in congress have to get this done but they are not there yet. they are closed but not there yet. one t
bought up stocks on high hopes of deal, after president obama said this afternoon a deal is "in sight," and positive comments from republican leaders in the senate. here's how e major averagesr closed on this last trading day of 2012. the dow surged 166 points, the nasdaq jumped about 60, and the s&p rose almost 24 points. while wall street has already closed the books on 2012, washington still has a few hours to go before its new year's day fiscal cliff deadline. darren gersh has the latest. >> reporter: after a weekend of late-night negotiations with the vice presidt, senate republican leader mitch mcconnell said an agreement on the fiscal cliff was very, very close. >> we'll continue to work on finding smarter ways to cut spending, but let's not let that hold up protecting americans from the tax hike that will take place in about 10 hours. >> reporter: the deal would raise the top tax rate for individuals making more than $400,000 and couples with more than $450,000 in income. itemized deductions would be limited for individuals making more than $250,000 and couples making more tha
bought up stocks on high hopes of deal after president obama said this afternoon a deal is "in sight," and positive comments from republican leaders in the senate. here's how the major averages closed on this last trading day of 2012. the dow surged 166 points, the nasdaq jumped about 60, and the s&p rose almost 24 points. while wall street has already closed the books on 2012, washington still has a few hours to go before its new year's day fiscal cliff deadline. darren gersh has the latest. >> reporter: after a weekend of late-night negotiations with the vice president, senate republican leader mitch mcconnell said an agreement on the fiscal cliff was very, very close. >> we'll continue to work on finding smarter ways to cut spending, but let's not let that hold up protecting americans from the tax hike that will take place in about 10 hours. >> reporter: the deal would raise the top tax rate for individuals making more than $400,000 and couples with more than $450,000 in income. itemized deductions would be limited for individuals making more than $250,000 and couples making more
. fiscal cliff talks at the white house end with no deal, but president obama says he's still hopeful and says "we've got to get this done." gold prices pulled back today on worries about the fiscal cliff, will the metal shine in 2013? then cuba, tonight's "market monitor" sees big opportunity on the tiny island when the embargo's lifted. thomas herzfeld, of thomas herzfled advisors joins us. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! president obama says he's "modestly optimistic" a fiscal deal can be reached in time. he said he's instructed senator harry reid and senator mitch mcconnell to come up with a plan that can pass in congress. his brief comments a short while ago came after a white house meeting today with congressional leaders that ended with no deal. ahead of that, investors lost hope lawmakers can come together in the time remaining. in the last few minutes of trading, stocks sold off. the dow tumbled 158 points, the nasdaq lost 25, and the s&p fell over 15 points. here's darren gersh with more on the critical work that has to get done in washington this weekend. >> reporter: th
november 16. sign for republicans that mr. obama has not really been pushing that hard for a deal. >> we need presidential leadership on in the just taxing rich people. >> three words the president did not use. he did not use the word sequester and he didn't say "debt ceiling" either. he focused most of his remarx on preventing taxes from going up. there are also massive spending cuts coming. no idea how they will avert that. he also did not mention the debt ceiling. earlier they wanted lifting the debt ceiling included. now it's clear it's not in the short-term package that guarantees if they get a short-term deal here, we have major budget battles coming. >> the key to any good negotiation each side has to give up something. near and dear to their heart. what is it, as succinctly as you imagine, both sides have given up? >> both sides say the president started on threshold of tax cut of $250,000. negotiations with boehner he moved to $400,000. not if you have for boehner. he wanted it to be $1 million or more. that is something that can beer worked on. spending cuts the republicans wan
was just reporting. president obama says either a deal is reached or you vote on the short-term stop gap measure. if republicans fail to pass it i'm summarizing it's their fault. so the president kind of tossing the ball into the republican's camp, placing blame on them. in your opinion s that presidential leadership? >> the republicans have gone after the president that he has deferred to congress on this is that he was unable to strike a deal between -- with speaker boehner and now it is to reid and mcconnell. on one hand, obama is criticizing the congress but also giving them the responsibility to come up with a deal. this is on his watch. obama does not want this going into next year. he wants to move quickly on immigration and energy and maybe gun control. so, but he has not been able to strike a deal with the speaker and that is -- you know, takes two to tango, both have to compromise. both have failed repeatedly on getting a debt deal both in the summer of 2011 and now. how to it is up to the senate which up until recently has been shoved to the side. can they come to the rescue.
there is still a lot of work going on on capitol hill. president obama said a deal is in sight to stop america going over the so-called fiscal cliff. congress officials have said the house of representatives will not vote before midnight despite tense negotiations to get an agreement signed before midnight washington time. that will trigger a series of automatic spending cuts and tax hikes and could send the country back into recession. >> of america is staring into the economic unknown. there will be some real damage. there are some people deserving far better and we will be scrambling to find budget reductions in we can understand. >> we are upon the fiscal cliff. will we need to focus on is how we find that common ground. ira by -- i believe republicans and democrats alike want to put us on the course to fiscal discipline. >> we are running at a time. americans are threatened with a tax hike in just few hours. i hope we can keep in mind that our single most important goal is to protect middle-class families. >> democrats and republicans in congress have to get this done but
. president obama is dealing directly and spoke frequently sunday with the senate majority leader harry reid while vice president joe biden spoke frequently sunday with republican leader in the senate mitch mcconnell. mcconnell and biden get along much better than mcconnell does with president obama. in the last 24 hours, the administration has given ground on raising threshold for income tax rates and estate tax rates, but also demanded much more in new government spending the republicans are comfortable with. it's that division between spending and taxes that continues to divide both sides, and that is the one thing that may prevent a deal from being achieved in the final hours as we get nearer to the fiscal cliff. >> major garrett, thank you. senator is live on capitol hill. >> thanks for having me. >> if there's a deal today, why would you vote to extend tax cuts if there are no new spending cuts? >> that's the exact thing. the real problem is the spending. if you want to raise taxes -- and the president promised in the campaign he wanted to do that -- it'
following president obama's announcement that he would cut his vacation short to deal with fiscal cliff negotiations. hoping that the real estate market would bolster the economy in 2013. we are learning that holiday sales this year were the weakest since 2008. they had a grim outlook for a fiscal cliff deal and the impact of the tragedy in newtown. on the radar this morning, chilling details in the christmas eve firefighter ambush. we could find out soon who will be saying aloha to the senate and a broken record in the house of representatives. new details out of webster, new york. william spangler set a car and house on fire and ambushed firefighters, opening fire on them as they arrive on the scene. police found a note he left behind saying he wanted to burn down the neighborhood and do what i like doing best, killing people. a convicted felon who spent 17 years in prison for killing his grandmother with a hammer was armed with three firearms including a bushmaster, the same gun used in the school massacre. he may have killed his sister and the home had human remains believed to be h
obama. mr. boehner said he wanted to deal along the lines what the two men had negotiated, summer of 2011, in the fight over raising the debt ceiling. "you missed your opportunity on that," the president told him. cold. but what we know right now, what we know from that is that john boehner wishes he could go back in time, get in the time machine, go back to 2011, and get the deal that president obama offered him then. mr. boehner wants another bite at that 2011 deal, because back then, the president was offering to stop at $800 billion in new taxes. my prediction here right now is that in a few weeks or a few months, republicans are going to wish they could go back to 2012, right now, and get the deal president obama offered them a week ago, which only raised about $1.2 trillion in taxes. because here's what i think is going to happen now. if we get a small deal before we go over the fiscal cliff, either because harry reid and mitch mcconnell come to a deal in the senate, or because democrats jam the republicans in congress, it's mostly going to be about extending the bush tax cu
from a bad deal they have a lot more power going into 2013 in that, basically president obama is going to have to deal with them on the debt ceiling. why not negotiate from a position strength in 2013? any tax increases now are retroactive, rather than give in and basically do great harm to your brand in the near term in return for nothing? ashley: basically what lesson do we learn, john, if we indeed take your advice and walk away or republicans walk away and just fall off the cliff? >> well the lesson we learn americans will still get up on january seg and go to work because what is they're going to do. the other lesson we'll learn from this is the politicians, whether republicans or democrat live to spend your money. so anytime they're not passing laws in haste, we're much better off. ashley: very good. leave it at that. john tamney, forbes opinion editor. joining us from the place with folks under the might be scope, d.c. john, thank you very much. >> thank you very much. ashley: markets holding their ground up about 57 points. even as time slips away from washington. shibani: trad
. washington did not get a fiscal cliff deal for christmas so that means president obama and lawmakers will need to kick it to overdrive to get something done by new year's. this is easier said than done. >> after weeks of bitterness, this is not a contest of the parties between who looks good and who doesn't. >> the only thing both sides agree on now is christmas may provide a cooling off period. >> ebb can drink eggnog. have christmas cookies. sing christmas carols. enjoy company of loved ones. >> hope springers eternal. >> when the christmas trees come down tomorrow from waikiki beach and elsewhere, the nation will be staring at the cliff that economists warned could spark a new recession. the fact is both sides are further apart than the holiday messages suggest. this puts the speaker in a box leading to collapse of plan "a" of $4 trillion debt deal and the slimmeded-down plan "b." >> in the course, i offered to compromise with republicans in congress. i met them halfway on taxes and more than halfway on spen spending. >> boehner is saying that the stumbling block will lead to taxe
boehner an obama get close to a deal, president obama moves the goalpost back. >> kimberly: he is playing hard ball. this is the problem. he is going hmm to you, republicans. i don't care about that. that is nothing. i get that for free. he is the guy changing the play for his side. what about the right? >> juan: the american people. look at the poll, they think president obama is willing to compromise. >> andrea: which is ironic. [ overtalk ] >> juan: who are the obstructionists? it's my ideology, i can't negotiate. even if we go off the cliff, endanger the whole economy. >> greg: here is thing. the idea of adhering to a principle in this world is seen as extremism, trying to limit government and cutting taxes. what obama is able to do is shift the argument from cutting and spending to now spending and borrowing. cutting is part of it. >> eric: leave it there. coming up, the day after christmas. you know what that means? all the bad gifts are going back. tell you what the five of us got from san. the plus, this woman says she was fired from her job for from being too sexy. her boss could
, 2012. good morning. good to be with you. i'm duarte geraldino. this afternoon president obama will meet with congressional leader to try to come to a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. they've been called into a sunday evening session just in case some deal can be reached. boehner is expected to attend the white house meeting but he's made it very clear. the next move is up to the senate. tara mergener has more. >> good morning, duarte. both sides say they are eager to talk and ready to strike a deal. the fiscal cliff is still a few days away, but business owner don carlino says he's already feeling the impact. >> a lot of our customers are holding back, they're apprehensive. they're not committing to projects. they're waiting to see what happens with the fiscal cliff. >> hope is fact if congress can get it done before january 1st. even congressional leaders are skeptical. >> the american people have a right to be very upset with this congress. >> president obama has invited nancy pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell, and harry reid to the white house this afternoon for a fiscal
.b.r."! president obama says he's "modestly optimistic" a fiscal deal can be reached in time. he said he's instructed senator harry reid and senator mitch mcconnell to come up with a plan that can pass in congress. his brief comments a short while ago came after a white house meeting today with congressional leaders that ended with no deal. ahead of that, investors lost hope lawmakers can come together in the time remaining. in the last few minutes of trading, stocks sold off. the dow tumbled 158 points, the nasdaq lost 25, and the s&p fell over 15 points. here's darren gersh with more on the critical work that has to get done in washington this weekend. >> port: thpresident declared himself modestly optimistic congress could still reach an agreement to head off huge tax hikes on january first, but he also warned lawmakers to get their work done. >> the american people are not going to have patience with a self-inflicted wound on the economy. >> reporter: senate republican leader mitch mcconnell called the white house meeting a good one and he told his fellow republicans he hoped to have
around the world. president obama and congress return to work today with little progress seen on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff as the government starts taking steps to buy more time before the u.s. hits the debt ceiling. the yen hits a two-year low against the dollar as the new japanese government battles to weaken currency. exports are rising, pushing the nikkei to its strongest gain in 20 years. .shares of toyota are heading higher after the u.s. settled a class action lawsuit. the $1 billion payment is already priced in. okay. welcome to "worldwide exchange." plenty of news to watch out of washington. all of this week, we thought it would be a quiet one. but i won't be inside the beltway if they want to get something done. the u.s. will hit the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling come monday. in a letter to congressional leaders, geithner says treasury will begin taking steps to save the government about $2 billion. geithner says it's harder to predict a time frame because the ongone fiscal cliff talks make it difficult to forecast next year's budget. among the measures treasury will take
is running out with no deal in sight. president obama will meet with congressional leaders later today at the white house. but it may be too late for a deal. there's just four days left before the fiscal cliff deadline. >> i have to be very honest, mr. president. i don't know, time-wise, how it can happen now. >> reporter: senate majority leader, harry reid, lashed out at house speaker, john boehner, accusing him of running a dictatorship. >> john boehner seems to care more about his leadership than keeping the country on a secure footing. >> republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. that wouldn't be fair to the american people. >> reporter: president obama flew home early from his hawaii vacation yesterday. speaker boehner called the house back into town for an unusual sunday session. but members of congress understand the 11th-hour actions may not be enough to appease the public. >> the american people have a right to be very upset with this congress. >> reporter: the fiscal cliff
for a deal, president obama stated his terms face-to-face to top republicans and democrats. >> congressional leaders arrive ted white house this afternoon for their first group meeting with the president since november 16th. vice president biden and treasury secretary timothy geithner also attend. but there was little to suggest the makings of an 11th hour bargain. a source familiar with the meeting told the newshour its president is sticking with his offer from last friday. it included keeping the bush era tax break force the middle class but raising tax rates on incomes over 250,000 dollars a year. president also wants to extend unemployment benefits for some 2 million americans who will lose them in the new year. and a proposal would delay any spending cuts. the president asked for an up or down vote on his plan unless there is a counter proposal that will pass both the house and senate. a little more than an hour after the meeting began, several participants were seen leaving. >> and back at the capital the senate's democratic majority leader harry reid and republican minority leader mit
the senate. so what obama is saying, if harry reid and mcconnell do not get a deal, well, that means that a deal would signify that it is filibuster proof. they'd have a super majority. democrats have the majority so you would think why don't they just vote together, pass it and move on to the house, but the dare is that obama's saying do you really want to show to all of america, republican senators that you're going filibuster a bill and everybody's taxes will go up? how do you explain that when there are -- when there is a majority around who can fas? that's a pretty interesting dare that obama put out there. >> thank you, it's like a little school house rock on saturday afternoon here on msnbc. perry, if mitch mcconnell does make a deal, how does he sell that deal in kentucky and the reddest of red states, mind you? >> i think he can and the reason is, like i said, i think any deal he signs on to will be a deal 100, 120 house republicans will sign to. he's not going sign a deal by himself and he'll sign a deal that's acceptable to some conservatives and mitch mock connell has a h
days away and there is no deal in sight. president barack obama is in hawaii for christmas, meanwhile house speaker house speaker john boehner is also on vacation. before vacation they each made one last pitch. >> we have a tax hike on middle- class americans... >> it would still be ready as far as the eye can see and it would hurt jobs. >> if we go over the fiscal cliff, most americans will see higher taxes and most will feel the sting of harsh budget cuts. >>> holiday vandals hit a church in orange county, what has police launching an investigation . >>> coming up, alex savage would be live with more on a police investigation and it turned into a much bigger situation. >>> police say it happened near a catholic church. was swastikas -- swastikas were found in front of a priest's house. a nay safety scene has been nativity scene has been found in the past. >>> snow in the west could make for a white christmas on the east coast. snow has fallen up to a few inches in other parts of new york state and it is creating headaches for holiday travelers. the region could get a few more inches
. they and president obama still hope a deal to avoid the "fiscal cliff" can be reached. but democrats and republicans are stil at odds over tax hikes on the wealthy. a woman makes a 9-1-1 for call for help that ends in a deadly confrontation between an armed man and walnut creek police. the officer involved shooting took place on the 1400 block of creekside drive just after 3am thursday morning.no officers were injured. the man who was shot by officers died at the scene. he has been identified as 22-year-old anthony banta jr. the incident has rattled residents in the area. >> i have been here for three years. i thought that walnut creek was one of the safest places to be. i thought that could could have never happened. >> unbelievable. >> scary. >> right on the road from where i live. >> just a couple of doors down. >> if it could happen anywhere. >> everybody is shaken up and a state of shock they thought that it could not happen here. >> i walked out and saw the police tape and i thought it was a joke. my wife commented and i could not believe it. >> grant: the contra costa county d.a.'s office is
%. >> what about this? every time bainner and obama gets close to a deal, obama moves the goalpost back. >> because he's playing hardball. he's going, republicans, i don't care about that, i get that for free. he's kind of the guy that came to play and staunch for his side. >> the american people, when you look at the policy, they think it's president obama who is willing to compromise. >> because he's able to fit it in. because he hasn't conceded anything. >> and who are the obstructionists? who is afraid to move? it's my ideology, i can't negotiate. and even if we go off the cliff we endanger the whole economy. >> again, the idea of add hearing to a principle sadly in this world is seen as extremist, which is trying to limit government and cutting taxes. what obama has been able to do is shift the argument from cutting and spending to now spending and borrowing. cutting is even part of it. >> we have to leave it there. coming up, it's the day after christmas. you know what that means? all the bad kids going bad. [laughter] >> let's tell you what the finalist got from santa. and this w
away. >>> a final meeting between president obama and congressional leaders to hammer out a last-minute deal towards the so called -- to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff has finished. john boehner was at the white house today, trying to reach an agreement to avoid hundreds of billions of dollars of tax increases and spending cuts. no statement is expected anytime soon. we go live now to washington to war correspondent, ben. >> all of the participants at this meeting left without a word. i don't think we will hear from them the rest of the day. there is a great deal at stake and very little time left. it has been reported that president obama presented a plan to increase taxes on income over a quarter million dollars per year, as part of the deficit reduction plan to deal with american debt. he would probably say to the congressional leaders that need to figure out a way to get it through, but i think the expectations in washington of a deal are low with only three, four days left until the new year and the media tax hikes and spending cuts taking and -- kicking in. >> that means
. they are saying no deal. president obama coming back to d.c. to fix what he broke in the first place. two solid years to deal with it. this is a gimmick, the flying back from hawaii to do this. nothing going over the fiscal cliff. let the tax cut expire. come back in, offer the tax cuts for people under 250. call them obama cuts and get it going. if you are in congress. you make $175,000 a year. you get vacation days off. they go back and smoke cigars, eat steak, drink wine and laugh. >> andrea: is there something wrong with eating and drinking? if with pay them to do it. >> eric: they want to hit the buffet line. >> andrea: do it on their own time. not when the country is in a financial crisis. i think obama gets a superhero cape after this. >> andrea: people say republican goes down either way on this. but the house and the senate, this last election by blaming republicans. does he think he will get blamed for this? no. he figures i can do whatever i want. leave the republicans out for dead. >> eric: he is winning the messaging game. that is clear. >> andrea: i say that with confidence. he wa
connell asked president obama and other congressional leaders to give them time to work on a compromise deal, recognizing time is running out. again today, the president emphasized the need for action. >> and congress can prehave not it from happening if they act now. leaders in congress are working on a way to prevent this tax hike on the middle class and i believe we may be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. >> we are told conversations are taking place. meanwhile, house republicans are due to meet tomorrow evening. it was originally scheduled for monday morning. it's not clear if they'll have the details of a deal, but the thinking seems to be getting everybody together sooner than later. >> kelly: i remember the president on friday saying that we've got to get this done and president obama, however, you go back to the campaign, had been campaigning on asking upper income americans pay more. how is that likely to play out right now? >> you're right. president obama made the argument that those making more than $250,000 a year should pay more. higher tax rate. jo
to try to hammer out a deal. the deadline a week way andrew spencer, reporting. >>> president obama is giving federal employees a present, he's issued an executive order giving workers at most federal departments the day off today, it excludes workers who have to remain on duty for reasons of national security, defense or other public need, many of president obama's predecessors had also given a holiday on christmas eve. >>> people are up early, ready to shop, travel, red to -- [ laughing ] >> all of the above. good morning. [ unintelligible ] good morning. coming up on 5:18 we are looking from sutro tower down on what is a dry san francisco all the way to the east bay where it is dry. speaking of -- all major airports on time, flight tracker always there abc7news.com at the bottom of every page. live doppler over the last three hours even the snow starting to wind a little. -- to wane. even with the rain coming, it is going to stay below flood stage, good news. 37 santa rosa just updated these numbers, 38 napa, thickest fog, 42 livermore, los gatos 41. 44 san jose, redwood city, 49
this morning. new hope for a deal to avoid going off the fiscal cliff. if president obama will meet with congressional leaders later today. danielle leigh is in washington with more on the rush for a deal. >> president obama and congressional leaders need to make progress, and today's last met afternoon meeting at the white house could be a final opportunity. >> mcconnell seemed to give an indication that maybe, just maybe, the president might make a new offer giving -- getting toward the 11th-hour. >> off without a deal that cuts of the debt, taxes will go up on every worker next week. the extension to of unemployment benefits expires and deep spending cuts set in, threatening another recession. >> it really upsets me because the government is a blow to be working for the people and i don't see that. >> despite what is at stake, senators came back early only to engage in another round of bickering. >> republicans have bent over backwards. we stepped way, way out of our comfort zone. >> we wanted an agreement. but we had no takers. >> we are in the same situation we have been in for
to president obama and hairy reid, come back to say, sorry we're not atloud work the deal. they didn't want to deal then. they don't want a deal now. it worked out well for them not to allow a deal last time. they blamed us last year. them and it worked and got go over the cliff? blame republicans. not let the senate pass anything. we get away with it, again. >> allmúwu right. here is the quandry l dilemma. congressman> i think it does. the house acted. we acted on august 1 last week rejecting a proposal from our gone where the president wants to go and raise taxes onc-?9t certain folks. the senate has not acted. they haven't acted for 1337 days on a budg
. >> arthel: if negotiations fail or lawmakers don't like a final deal, president obama wants to move forward with a plan c. what's in that? >> it would focus on three key areas. keeping the tax cuts for those making $250,000 a year or less, extending unemployment benefits and delayed dramatic spending cuts until later next year. president obama says the u.s. cannot afford a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. >> fortunately congress can prevent it from happening if they act right now. i just had a good and constructive discussion with senate and house leadership about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class. i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. >> the wild card is figuring out what it will take to get a final deal to pass in the house of representatives. they return tomorrow, probably around when we find out if the top two senators reached an agreement. >> gregg: mike emmanuel live in washington. thanks very much. be sure to watch fox news sunday tomorrow. chris wallace talks fiscal cliff with u.s. senators lindsey
they strike a deal of some sort. >> i think it's likely president obama will cut his vacation short. we haven't gotten guidance about when that is going to happen. the white house is calling this a working vacation, but the reality is that talks are largely deadlocked over the fiscal cliff. there have been a few conversations going on at the staff level but really the expectation is that the hard work is going to get done when lawmakers return to washington after the christmas holiday, a little bit later on this week. that's when they're going to resume negotiations in earnest. of course there had been hopes that the president and house speaker john boehner were going to get a deal done. if you looked at the beginning of last week, they were getting close to a deal it appeared but that fell apart and talks fell apart. president obama said i will accept a smaller deal as long as it doesn't allow rates for those to go up for those making $250,000 or less. over the weekend you had a few senators, including senator joe lieberman saying they believe now more than ever we may be getting closer to a
don't know who to negotiate with. even with john boehner were to come to obama with a deal, john boehner is being held host and by members of his own caucus who won't let him do that. boehner can work with democrats to get it passnd and throw some of his support with the democrats to get it passed but the problem for john boehner is he has an election coming up for his own leadership position on january 3 and he is afraid to do that. >> laura: again, and i understand why julie is saying this because the republicans don't have a ton of leverage here, stephen. >> they don't. >> they have very little leverage. >> all of the taxes go up, lawyer, a as you know, on january 2. >> is it that bad for president obama if we go over the cliff, oh, throw the nation into recession and lose all these jobs but he views everything through a political lens does he not? >> he does. >> laura: i think they made the calculation this won't hurt them one bit and they have gotten the peg on the tea he party and boehner or something. >> the president has said that by the way of the negotiations and john b
. that's option one. the green one. option two is less certain. president obama reportedly challenged congressional leaders from both parties on friday to come up with a deal better than the one he proposed. the center piece of which is that the top marginal tax rate will increase for those earning $250,000 or more from 35% to 39.6%. that's only on the amount earned above that threshold. obama has told congress either they come up with something better or put his proposal to a vote. he's betting even those who hate the idea of a tax increase on the rich will hate causing america to go over the fiscal cliff even more. okay. option three. that's the red box. that's one where america goes over the fiscal cliff. jessica yellin is cnn's chief white house correspondent. peer into the crystal ball for us, jessica. which of these scenarios is most likely? >> well, ali, i think that after yesterday it's slightly more likely that there will be some sort of agreement. that doesn't mean that there are a whole bunch of optimists running around d.c. saying it's going to get resolved. but what you d
down deal from president obama? >> yeah. i believe we need a big deal, but the more likely possibility, at this point, is it's really focused on a tax deal where they come up with some number between what speaker boehner and president obama talked about, that they address things like alternative minimum tax, and put together a deal that we either try to pass before the end of the year or get agreement to come back right after the first of the year and pass it through both houses. adam: the numbers were something like the president at one point was willing to raise his baht -- bottom line to 400,000. if that's the deal, can you guys, can the men and women in our political leadership pass something before midnight, december 31? >> well, i think so. i mean, and you're going exactly the right direction. if you take what's been put on the table, you got the senate bill, you got the house bill, and you got what president obama and speaker boehner talked about, somewhere in the middle, i think, is a deal we could pass before year end, and as you say, it would be in the $400,000 to $500,000 ra
their majority in the house and there's a great deal of the country that does not support the way that obama would like to deal with this problem. stuart: look how it's been presented in the establishment media. president obama cutting short his holiday vacation, returning to washington trying to fix the fiscal mess. thank you very much, mr. president. mr. boehner, speaker boehner, oh, he finally gets the house back in session on sunday night. and then we have some democrats saying, why don't these republicans quit defending their millionaire pals. the way it's presented in the establishment media is highly pejorative against republicans and yet, republicans, as we heard from the rasmussen poll, they're not getting all of the blame. it's 44-36 that's where it is, again, that surprises me. >> those headlines are great. the next time i'm on deadline and i have a story to write. because i've left it to the last minute and i have to cancel a movie i think i'm going to, you know, complain about it and say, oh, finally, i'm getting back into the work session here. no, i mean, it's ridiculous. now,
work out a deal, tax hikes, spending cuts will take effect on tuesday of next week. president obama says he is willing to give congress a little time to come up with a compromise but his patience is limited well as is the rest of the country's. ed henry with the news live at the white house. ed, first, a dramatic meeting earlier today at the white house. and then this ultimatum from the president. >> that's right, harris. it was a dramatic exchange. what i'm told by a senior white house official is that the president basically told john boehner and mitch mcconnell the republican leaders in the room here for this meeting that he wants an up or down vote on his scaled back bill to try to avoid this fiscal cliff. and he basically turned on them and said so what's your response? what's your move? the next move is yours. and then i'm told that mitch mcconnell and harry reid, the democratic leader in the senate jumped in before john boehner really got a chance to fully respond and say, look, we will take the ball and try to pass a bipartisan bill in the senate. the president responded by
that boehner was negotiating with president obama way back when. it was a better deal all the way around. they missed that moment. but i think the real thing is who pays the price. the people who are going to pay the price are the americans, the middle class. this is crazy. it's nuts to be putting us through this. >> maria, all the focus on tax cuts. but the revenue from increasing the taxes on the wealthy will barely make a debt in the deficit to say nothing of the trillions in debt we're talking about. is this just a symbolic fight that the president is determined to win off his election? >> it's not symbolic. there will be money raised if the tax cuts for the top 2% are left to expire. but let me just bring up a point. no democrat and certainly not this president has said there should be no spending cuts. on the contrary this president has put on the table quite an extraordinary amount of spending cuts to the chagrin of many democrats i might add. are they to the extent the grand bargain was last year? no, of course not. the president is in a much stronger political position right now
obama and senior senate republicans confirm a deal is in the works to prevent tax hikes as midnight. even if the senate were to pass it, sources on capitol hill say the house will not vote on it tonight. as far as the deal goes, nbc news has learned that both sides agreed to keep taxes at their current level for individuals who make up to $400,000 a year, or house december holds up to $450,000. mitch mcconnell says both sides are very close to an overall deal. >> let's pass the tax relief portion now. >> keep in mind just last month republicans in congress said they would never agree to raise tax rates on the wealthiest of americans. obviously the agreement that's currently being discussed would raise those rates and raise them permanently. >> again even if the senate were to pass the deal tonight, the house does not plan to vote on it tonight, but that too could change. >>> does that technically mean we're going over the fiscal cliff? >> msnbc's luke russert is live to explain why some congressional aides are call it a fiscal slope and not necessarily a cliff. good evening, luke. >
a crucial meeting on friday, between president obama and the leaders of the house and senate and urged lawmakers to urge them to do whatever it takes to cut a deal. >> i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. nobody is going to get 100% of what they want, but let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. >> chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is live in washington with the latest, mike. >> heather discussions are underway and i'm told we should not expect any news or announcements before senators are briefed tomorrow afternoon. after a meeting with the president late friday, the senate majority leader sounded cautiously optimistic. >> we have one meeting in the white house that was very constructive and we hope it will bear fruit and that's what we hope to learn. i think that the next 24 hours will be very instructive as to what we're able to accomplish. >> reporter: sources say house speaker john boehner deferred to senate colleagues and told him hous
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